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Jesus' Divinity and Sonship

Unique passages first, then the saved claims, sides, move usage, replies, and timestamped clips attached to each passage.

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Graph paths

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Unique claims

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Reference

John 17:3

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3 This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

Claims using this reference

Same claims from multiple streams are grouped together.

Claim-grouped references

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Jesus’ references to the Father as his God and the only true God challenge Trinitarian claims.

Muslim-side questions about John 20:17, John 17:3, and Trinitarian interpretation.

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John 17:1-2 is argued to show Jesus is more than a mere prophet.

Christian reply from glorification, authority, and eternal life.

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John 1:1

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Claims using this reference

Same claims from multiple streams are grouped together.

Claim-grouped references

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Jesus is uniquely the eternal Word and begotten Son of God, not a created son in the way Adam is.

Distinguishes Jesus' sonship from created or adoptive sonship.

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Jesus’ references to the Father as his God and the only true God challenge Trinitarian claims.

Muslim-side questions about John 20:17, John 17:3, and Trinitarian interpretation.

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John's Word language can be read through a Hebrew concept of God's visible Word without making the Son equal to the Father.

The Word is interpreted as a visible divine emanation with distinct authority.

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Hebrews 1:3

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3 His Son is the radiance of his glory, the very image of his substance, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself made purification for our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Claims using this reference

Same claims from multiple streams are grouped together.

Claim-grouped references

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John 17:1-2 is argued to show Jesus is more than a mere prophet.

Christian reply from glorification, authority, and eternal life.

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The Son sustains creation and therefore shares divine power with the Father.

Hebrews and Colossians are used to argue that Christ upholds all things.

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Trinitarian language must account for both biblical oneness and real Father-Son distinction.

A caller wrestles with terminology for persons, oneness, and distinction in God.

Reference

Quran 4:171

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171 People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not, 'Three.' Refrain; better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian.