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Joseph Smith and failed prophecy

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Doctrine and Covenants 111 - 00:16:29

DEBATE: Is L.D.S. Christian? | ​ @MadebyJimbob Vs @LiftLogicLabs - Jan 7, 2026

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Quoted as an example of a failed revelation, with the speaker claiming Joseph Smith was promised hidden treasure in Salem that never materialized.

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Doctrine and Covenants 114 - 00:16:09

DEBATE: Is L.D.S. Christian? | ​ @MadebyJimbob Vs @LiftLogicLabs - Jan 7, 2026

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Used to argue that Joseph Smith gave a failed prophecy about David W. Patten's future mission, since the debate opponent notes Patten died before the prediction could be fulfilled.

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Doctrine and Covenants 87 - 00:17:14

DEBATE: Is L.D.S. Christian? | ​ @MadebyJimbob Vs @LiftLogicLabs - Jan 7, 2026

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Invoked to argue that Joseph Smith's Civil War prophecy overreached into a worldwide collapse that the critic says never occurred, and therefore should count against his prophet...

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