A Muslim commenter raised this verse in a scripture-corruption challenge, and the host said he was glad it remained in the Bible and invited discussion on it.
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Jeremiah 8:8 - 00:10:50
- 1UnmappedBibleReferenceTorah and Gospel Corruption
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Sahih Muslim 1453b - 00:17:14
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Used to argue that Muhammad instructed a married woman to 'suckle' an adult male household member, as evidence against Muhammad's moral example.
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Sahih Muslim 1453a - 00:27:52
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Used in the Arabic-word dispute over whether the report literally says to breastfeed/suckle a grown man.
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Quran 6:101 - 00:46:55
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Used to argue the Quran presents sonship as requiring a female consort, and therefore misunderstands Christian claims about divine sonship.
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Quran 3:40 - 00:53:25
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Used in the language dispute over the Arabic word 'anna,' to support reading it as 'how' in the sonship discussion.
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Quran 48:2 - 01:00:18
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Used to challenge the claim that Muhammad was infallible by pointing to Allah forgiving his past and future sins.
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Quran 33:37 - 01:06:44
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Used by the Shia guest to defend Muhammad in the Zayd/Zaynab episode by arguing Zayd had already lost interest before the marriage to Muhammad occurred.
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Quran 65:4 - 01:09:04
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Used as the central Quran text in the child-marriage argument, to say the Quran gives a waiting period for girls who have not menstruated.
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Quran 65:4 - 01:18:20
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Cited by the Shia guest to reinterpret Quran 65:4 as referring to women of menstrual age whose periods are delayed, not prepubescent girls.
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Al-Kafi - 01:26:13
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Used to show a Shia hadith report setting intercourse at age nine, reinforcing the child-marriage critique from Shia sources as well as Sunni ones.
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Quran 33:49 - 01:39:59
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Used together with Quran 65:4 to argue that a waiting period only applies after consummation, so 65:4 implies consummated marriages with prepubescent girls.
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Quran 39:4 - 01:44:08
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Used in two opposite ways: the Muslim guest used it to argue the grammar makes Allah taking a son impossible, while the host used it to argue the verse still says Allah could ch...
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Quran 112:3 - 01:50:36
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Used in a grammatical rebuttal over whether 'lam yalid' only negates past begetting or excludes divine begetting altogether.
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Al-Kafi - 02:06:23
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Used to argue that Shia hadith literature contains a report of a much longer Quran, raising a Quran-corruption/preservation problem.
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Quran 15:9 - 02:07:33
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Used by the Shia guest to defend perfect preservation of the Quran against the 17,000-verse report.
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Quran 16:43 - 02:12:13
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Used to argue that 'the Reminder' can refer to earlier revelation and its people, not only the Quran, as a counter to a Quran-only reading of 15:9.
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Colossians 2:8-9 - 02:27:57
- 1UnmappedBibleReferenceJesus' Divinity and Sonship
Quoted in a superchat to warn against human traditions and affirm Christ's deity, encouraging viewers back into Scripture.
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Quran 6:115 - 02:29:04
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Raised in a question about whether abrogation contradicts the claim that none can change Allah's words; the host answered that abrogation does conflict with it.
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Quran 3:78 - 02:37:00
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Used by the host to say Muslims distort scripture 'with their tongues,' applying the verse polemically to Muslim argumentation on the stream.
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Quran 2:157 - 02:46:43
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Raised in a question about whether the word 'salawat' here means prayers rather than blessings.
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Sunan Abu Dawud 2146 - 02:57:46
- 1UnmappedHadithReferenceGender Roles and Violence in Islamic Law
Used to show Muhammad first forbade beating women but later allowed it after Umar complained, forming part of the moral critique of Islamic domestic discipline.
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Sahih al-Bukhari 2559 - 03:00:11
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Used by a Muslim guest to argue that any permitted hitting, including wife-discipline, could not target the face.
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Sahih Muslim 2603 - 03:06:24
- 1UnmappedHadithReferenceHadith Critiques and Moral Standards
Used to argue Muhammad cursed an orphan girl and then justified that such curses would turn into blessings if undeserved, undermining claims about prophetic moral example.
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Genesis 3:15 - 04:00:53
- 1UnmappedBibleReferenceDid Jesus fulfill prophecy?
Cited as one of the messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled when the host answered a viewer's question about fulfilled prophecy.
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Isaiah 53 - 04:00:53
- 1UnmappedBibleReferenceDid Jesus fulfill prophecy?
Cited as one of the messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled.
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Zechariah 12:10 - 04:01:03
- 1UnmappedBibleReferenceDid Jesus fulfill prophecy?
Cited as one of the messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled, with the host noting it is at least partially fulfilled and tied to Christ's return.
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1 Corinthians 7:1-2 - 04:05:17
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Used to answer a question about polygynous converts, with the host appealing to it for a one-man/one-woman norm in marriage.
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