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Raised to question how Jesus can be distinct from the Father when he is called “Everlasting Father,” then interpreted as meaning he is the source or bringer of eternal life.
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Trinity in the Old Testament
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Isaiah 9:6's title “Everlasting Father” must be explained in relation to the distinction between Jesus and the Father.
The title raises a question about Jesus' relation to the Father.
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The Unknown side asks how Jesus can be distinct from the Father if Isaiah calls him “Everlasting Father.”
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Isaiah's prophecy gives divine titles to the coming son and ruler, so sonship language is not merely a late pagan or Greco-Roman interpolation.
Appeals to Isaiah against claims that divine sonship language was later inserted or paganized.
Claim
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“Everlasting Father” can be understood as Jesus being the source or giver of eternal life.
The Christian reply interprets the title as source of eternal life.
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Jan 13, 2025 - 2 moves - 2 references