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Debate timelineApr 18, 2025

DEBATE: Does The Quran Say The Bible Is Corrupted? w/ David Wood, Jai & DoC, and Chris

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Quran 2:40-44 - 00:05:22

Torah and Gospel Corruption
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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Quoted at the outset to argue that Surah 2 tells the Children of Israel to believe the Quran because it 'verifies what is with you,' while also assuming they still 'read the Boo...

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Quran 2:89 - 00:07:10

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Cited as another Surah 2 text saying a book came from Allah 'verifying that which they have'; used to reinforce the claim that the Quran confirms the Jews' existing scripture ra...

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Quran 2:91 - 00:07:33

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    Quoted to show the Quran again says what Allah revealed is 'the truth, verifying that which they have'; used as repeated evidence that the Quran affirms scripture already in Jew...

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Quran 2:84-85 - 00:08:02

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Used repeatedly as a major plank in the discussion: the speakers argued this passage condemns Jews for believing only part of the Book and rejecting the rest, so it undercuts th...

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Quran 5:47 - 00:12:12

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Raised by a viewer and then discussed as a test case for whether the Gospel could be only fragmentarily preserved; the Christian speakers argued the verse treats the Gospel as a...

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Quran 7:157 - 00:13:07

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    Muhammad's Prophethood

    Cited to argue that the Gospel must still be preserved and authoritative in the Quran's view, because Muslims claim Muhammad is prophesied in it; the speakers used it against th...

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Quran 5:43-48 - 00:14:23

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Appealed to as the wider context in which Jews come to Muhammad for judgment but are sent back to the Torah; used to argue the Quran assumes Jews and Christians still possessed ...

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Quran 5:48 - 00:15:18

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Discussed specifically around the term 'guardian/protector'; the speakers argued this means the Quran functions as a guardian by sending Jews and Christians back to their own sc...

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Quran 5:68 - 00:15:37

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Quoted to say the People of the Book 'have no ground to stand upon' unless they uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and what was revealed to them; used as one of the strongest proof-t...

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Quran 2:79 - 00:20:27

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Brought up by multiple Muslim callers as the main proof that the Bible was corrupted. The Christian speakers replied that the verse only mentions people writing a book and claim...

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Exodus 31:17 - 00:46:39

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Mentioned by a Muslim caller as an example of a biblical text the Quran supposedly corrects; it was used in the debate as a claimed contradiction between Bible and Quran, not as...

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Quran 2:121 - 00:47:46

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Quoted to argue that the People of the Book in Muhammad's time still had the Book and recited it with its 'true recital'; used as evidence that the Torah/Gospel available then w...

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Sahih al-Bukhari 7363 - 00:55:02

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Quran 5:13-16 - 00:55:02

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Raised by Muslim callers as evidence that Jews and Christians distorted, hid, or neglected parts of scripture. The Christian side argued the passage is about concealment and int...

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John 17:3 - 01:01:13

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Quran 3:78 - 01:17:49

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Cited as a Quranic parallel showing that 'distorting words' can mean twisting them 'with their tongues'; used to support the argument that corruption passages refer to misrepres...

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Quran 4:46 - 01:23:25

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    Quoted alongside 5:13 to argue that the Quran's language about altering words refers to oral or interpretive distortion, since this verse explicitly says the Jews twist meanings...

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Jeremiah 8:8 - 01:28:02

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    Invoked by a Muslim participant as an analogy, claiming Surah 2 teaches Bible corruption in the same way this biblical verse is sometimes taken to teach corruption of the Torah;...

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Quran 4:171 - 02:53:23

Jesus' Divinity and Sonship
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    Jesus' Divinity and Sonship

    Read by a Muslim participant to argue that Christians exaggerated regarding Jesus and the Trinity; the Christian response was that the verse addresses the errors of the People o...

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Quran 17:111 - 03:06:07

Monotheism and worship
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    Monotheism and worship

    Quoted to rebut the idea that Allah could share complete rule or sovereignty with someone else; used in a side discussion about whether giving 'all authority in heaven and earth...

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Quran 6:115 - 04:03:27

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Quran 2:53 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:285 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:213 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:211 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:176-177 - 04:22:05

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Quran 2:159 - 04:22:05

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:144-146 - 04:22:05

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Quran 2:140 - 04:22:05

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:136 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:113 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:97 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:93 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:87 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:63-64 - 04:22:05

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    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 2:59 - 04:22:05

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    Torah and Gospel Corruption

    At the close, one speaker gave this grouped list as additional Surah 2 passages viewers should study because he said they cumulatively show Surah 2 affirming earlier scripture r...

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Quran 5:66 - 04:25:24

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Quran 3:3-4 - 04:25:34

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    Mentioned in the closing summary as another foundational verse set for the Islamic dilemma; it was cited because these verses say the Quran confirms what was revealed before it.

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