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Muslims DO NOT Follow Jesus... Change My Mind! | Live Debates

Jan 15, 202524 references

The curated debate arc centers on whether Muslims can coherently claim to follow Jesus while rejecting key claims attributed to him in Christian scripture, and how the Quran’s statements about Jesus and earlier revelation should be read. Early exchanges focused on Jesus as the Messiah: the Christian side used Quran 3:45 to challenge a claim that Quranic references to the Messiah point to a later figure rather than Jesus son of Mary in the Mary narrative. The discussion then moved through the virgin conception, with Luke 1:35 and Numbers 23:19 used to explain and defend the Christian claim that Mary conceived by divine power rather than sexual means.

A recurring exchange concerned what Jesus taught. Muslim participants appealed to Jesus’ message of love, Quranic descriptions of Jesus easing Torah requirements and announcing Ahmad, and Bible passages such as Matthew 22:39, Matthew 26:39, and John 16:7 to argue that Muslims follow Jesus through monotheism, prayer, moral teaching, and Muhammad’s foretold coming. The Christian side responded by pressing Johannine claims about Jesus coming from heaven, being the Son, granting eternal life, and raising believers on the last day, especially from John 6:38-40 and John 6:40, and contrasted these with Quran 9:30’s condemnation of calling Jesus the Son of God.

A major middle section disputed whether the Gospel/Injil was lost, changed, or still available and authoritative in Muhammad’s time. The Muslim side cited Quran 15:9 for Quranic preservation, Quran 5:47 for Christians judging by their own book, and later Quran 5:48 for the Quran as criterion/guardian over previous scriptures. The Christian side used Quran 7:157 to argue that the Torah and Gospel were present with Jews and Christians in Muhammad’s time, raised Quran 5:116 to question whether it proves the Injil denied Jesus’ divinity, and used Quran 21:48 and Quran 10:94 to challenge the idea that “criterion” uniquely belongs to the Quran or that the Quran functions as the sole external test of prior scripture.

The Paraclete passages formed a concentrated exchange: the Muslim side used John 16:7 to support identifying the promised helper with Muhammad, while the Christian side responded with John 14:16 and John 15:26 to argue that the Paraclete is sent by the Father and Son and proceeds from the Father, making the identification with Muhammad difficult. The final curated section returned to textual corruption: the Muslim side cited Quran 2:79 and 5:44 to argue that some people fabricated or failed to preserve scripture, while the Christian side used Quran 3:78 and Sahih al-Bukhari 6819 to argue that the issue is deceptive handling, misquotation, or concealment of scripture rather than corruption of the Torah/Gospel text itself.