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Torah and Gospel Corruption

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Quran 10:94 directs Muhammad to consult earlier scripture, making those scriptures authoritative for testing Quranic claims.

A Christian-side claim about prior scripture and Quranic authority.

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The host frames Quran 10:94 as making previous scripture an authority over the Quran.
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ChristianQuranStatementPrimary Evidence
Used to challenge Muslims to explain why Allah tells Muhammad to consult earlier scripture if in doubt about the Quran, arguing that this makes the Bible an authority over the Q...
Quran 10:94 · 00:04:23
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The host uses an analogy to argue that consulting prior readers makes their testimony a verifier of Quranic claims.
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ChristianQuranReplyPrimary Evidence
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that Muhammad is directed to consult people reading earlier scripture to verify claims about previous prophets and Israel, implying th...
Quran 10:94 · 00:34:16
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Challenges the claim that the Quran is dominant over earlier scripture by asking why Muhammad would be told to verify through prior scripture.
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ChristianQuranObjectionPrimary Evidence
Used from a Christian perspective to challenge the claim that the Quran is dominant over earlier scriptures by arguing that Muhammad is told to verify doubtful revelations throu...
Quran 10:94 · 00:38:55
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ChristianQuranObjectionContext
Used from a Christian perspective to challenge the claim that the Qur’an is dominant or more trustworthy over previous scriptures by asking why Muhammad would be directed to ver...
Quran 5:48 · 00:39:02
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The host reads Quran 10:94 as doubt about the Quran being resolved by earlier scripture.
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ChristianQuranReplyPrimary Evidence
Used by the Christian side to argue that Muhammad is directed, when in doubt about the Quranic revelation, to consult those reading earlier scriptures as verification rather tha...
Quran 10:94 · 01:02:40
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The host returns to Quran 10:94 as requiring comparison with prior scripture when the Quran is doubted.
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ChristianQuranReplyCross Reference
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that someone doubting the Quran’s account is directed to compare it with earlier scriptures, making those prior scriptures a validatin...
Quran 10:94 · 01:09:59
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The host again presents Quran 10:94 as validating previous books as an authority.
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ChristianQuranEvidencePrimary Evidence
Cited by the Christian side to argue that the Quran directs Muhammad or doubters to consult earlier scriptures, thereby treating them as an authority that can confirm the Quran.
Quran 10:94 · 01:18:11
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The host states that Quran 10:94 makes Torah and Gospel a verification standard.
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ChristianQuranEvidencePrimary Evidence
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that Muhammad is told to consult earlier scripture if in doubt, making the Torah and Gospel an authority for verifying his prophethood...
Quran 10:94 · 01:38:58
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The Christian side argues that Muhammad being told to ask earlier-scripture readers implies those scriptures can verify revelation.
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ChristianQuranObjectionPrimary Evidence
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that Muhammad was told to consult earlier scripture when in doubt, implying those scriptures could verify or challenge Quranic revelat...
Quran 10:94 · 01:50:13
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The host argues that if Muhammad verifies religious claims by prior scripture, Muslims should apply that test too.
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ChristianQuranEvidencePrimary Evidence
Used by the Christian side to argue that Muhammad was told to verify a Qur’anic claim by consulting earlier scriptures, so those scriptures can function as a test of the Quran’s...
Quran 10:94 · 01:52:39
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ChristianQuranEvidenceSupporting Evidence
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that if Muhammad is the best example for Muslims, then Muslims should likewise check previous scriptures to test Quranic claims in rel...
Quran 33:21 · 01:54:59
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ChristianBibleEvidenceCross Reference
Used to accuse the other participant of suppressing what is presented as the obvious conclusion that Muhammad’s example of checking previous scriptures should also apply to test...
Romans 1:18 · 01:56:36
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The Christian side argues that Quran 5:47 instructs Gospel followers in Muhammad’s time to judge by the Gospel.
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ChristianQuranObjectionPrimary Evidence
Cited to argue that even in Muhammad’s time people of the Gospel were instructed to judge by the Gospel, supporting the claim that it remained authoritative.
Quran 5:47 · 01:57:53
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Challenges Quran-as-supreme-criterion language by noting that Moses and Aaron’s scripture is also called a criterion and that Muhammad is told to consult prior scripture if in doubt.
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ChristianQuranObjectionCounter Evidence
Cited by the Christian side to argue that Moses and Aaron’s scripture is also called the Criterion, challenging the claim that this title applies specifically to the Quran.
Quran 21:48 · 01:58:57
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ChristianQuranObjectionSupporting Evidence
Raised from a Christian perspective to challenge the claim that the Quran is the supreme overseer of earlier scriptures by arguing that Muhammad being told to consult prior scri...
Quran 10:94 · 02:02:45
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The host cites Quranic instructions for Christians and Quran 10:94 to support relying on prior scripture.
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ChristianQuranEvidencePrimary Evidence
Cited by a Christian to argue that the Quran tells Christians to judge by the Gospel, supporting reliance on the prior scriptures.
Quran 5:47 · 02:18:51
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ChristianQuranEvidenceSupporting Evidence
Used to argue from a Christian perspective that the Quran tells Christians to stand on the Torah and Gospel, supporting continued reliance on the Bible rather than accepting Muh...
Quran 5:68 · 02:19:00
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ChristianQuranEvidenceSupporting Evidence
Cited by the Christian side to argue that the Quran directs doubt about its message back to earlier scriptures, making the Bible a standard for testing rather than superseding it.
Quran 10:94 · 02:19:38
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Replies that Quran 10:94 makes earlier scripture the authority for checking Quranic accounts of previous prophets.
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ChristianQuranReplyPrimary Evidence
Cited by the Christian side to argue that the Quran directs Muhammad to consult earlier scripture, making the Bible authoritative over Quranic accounts of previous prophets.
Quran 10:94 · 02:34:41
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The Christian side argues that Quran 7:157 confirms the Torah available in Muhammad’s time as a relevant witness.
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ChristianQuranObjectionPrimary Evidence
Cited to argue that the Quran confirms the Torah available in Muhammad’s time as a reliable witness because it says Muhammad can be found mentioned in it.
Quran 7:157 · 03:03:21
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The host again argues that Quran 10:94 makes earlier scripture a determining test for Quranic claims.
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ChristianQuranEvidencePrimary Evidence
Cited by the Christian side to argue that the Quran directs doubt about its revelation to earlier scripture, making those scriptures an authority for testing the Quran's claims.
Quran 10:94 · 03:04:02
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