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DEBATE: InspiringPhilosophy Vs True Islam UK: Did Jesus Die by Crucifixion?

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1 Corinthians 15:3-8 - 00:04:40

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John 19:34 - 00:06:07

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    Jesus' Crucifixion

    Used in the medical argument over whether blood and water from Jesus' side indicates death from shock or evidence that he was still alive.

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Matthew 12:40 - 00:14:04

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    Used in the 'sign of Jonah' dispute, with one side arguing it refers to Jesus being in the earth for the same period and the other arguing it implies survival like Jonah.

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Esther 4:16 - 00:15:49

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    Used to support inclusive Jewish time reckoning, showing 'three days and three nights' could end 'on the third day' rather than after a full 72 hours.

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Esther 5:1 - 00:15:49

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    Used to support inclusive Jewish time reckoning, showing 'three days and three nights' could end 'on the third day' rather than after a full 72 hours.

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Matthew 27:63-64 - 00:15:56

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Jonah 2:2-6 - 00:16:49

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    Jesus' Crucifixion

    Used in opposite ways: one side argued Jonah's prayer implies descent to Sheol/death and return; the other argued it describes deliverance from near-death, not actual death.

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James 1:1 - 00:19:22

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    Jesus' Crucifixion

    Used to argue that the twelve tribes still existed after the exile, countering the claim that Jesus had to travel abroad to find 'lost tribes.'

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Isaiah 53 - 00:25:31

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    Used by one side as prophecy that the suffering servant would survive, have prolonged days, and see offspring; rebutted by the other side as typological rather than a direct sur...

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Mark 14:36 - 00:27:10

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Matthew 27:46 - 00:27:17

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Deuteronomy 21:22-23 - 00:28:23

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    Used to argue that being hanged signifies being under a curse, so Jesus' enemies sought to prove him false by crucifixion; the Christian side answered that Jesus bore the curse ...

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John 19:33-34 - 00:30:21

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    Used to argue the soldiers broke the legs of the others but not Jesus, and that the spear thrust functioned either as confirmation of death or, on the other side, as a test that...

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Luke 24:36-43 - 00:33:11

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    Used by the survival side to argue the post-crucifixion Jesus had a tangible, eating body and denied being a ghost; rebutted by the other side with the verses that follow about ...

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John 10:16 - 00:34:28

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    Used to support the claim that Jesus intended to gather 'other sheep' outside his immediate Jewish setting, feeding the argument that he later traveled east.

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Quran 4:157-158 - 00:40:43

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Quran 23:50 - 00:41:16

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    Used to argue that Jesus and Mary were later given refuge in an elevated place with springs, interpreted as support for post-crucifixion migration.

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Matthew 17:22-23 - 00:42:21

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Mark 9:31 - 00:42:28

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Matthew 16:21-23 - 00:43:22

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Luke 24:46 - 00:43:46

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    Used to argue Jesus explained from Scripture that the Messiah would suffer and rise 'from the dead,' not merely from a place of danger.

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Acts 1:14 - 00:50:06

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    Used to rebut the claim that Mary left Jerusalem with Jesus, by arguing she is still present with the believers after the ascension.

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Matthew 7:21 - 00:51:04

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John 8:58 - 00:51:42

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Luke 8:49-55 - 00:53:16

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    Used to argue that in biblical idiom someone could be called 'dead' while only asleep or comatose, supporting a non-literal reading of Jesus' predicted death.

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Acts 21:20-25 - 00:58:18

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Psalm 22:1 - 01:06:09

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    Used as the scriptural background for Jesus' cry from the cross: one side took it as a lament showing failed expectations, the other as a psalm ending in vindication.

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1 Corinthians 7:18-20 - 01:07:19

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Galatians 3:13 - 01:21:56

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Luke 4:8 - 01:35:14

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Luke 24:52 - 01:35:21

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Daniel 7:13-14 - 01:42:07

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John 10:34 - 01:42:38

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Psalm 82:6 - 01:42:38

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John 10:11 - 01:56:05

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    Used to argue the Synoptic use of 'kill' and 'be killed' leaves little room for reading Jesus' passion predictions as mere metaphor.

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Sahih Muslim 6665 - 02:22:34

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Quran 2:62 - 02:24:04

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1 Timothy 6:16 - 02:46:05

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Quran 3:144 - 03:04:03

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    Used to argue the Qur'an itself repeatedly speaks of earlier messengers, including Jesus, as having passed away, supporting the Ahmadi view that Jesus later died naturally.

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John 10:17-18 - 03:08:12

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    Used in Q&A to argue that 'laying down' and 'taking up' life can be read as willing exposure to danger and later vindication rather than literal death and resurrection.

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Matthew 28:7 - 03:11:13

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